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The ALC: Giving Atheists a Bad Name
2005.07.10 (Sun) 19:44
Apparently, when people associate the word "atheism" with visions of anti-religious zealots, groups like the Atheist Law Center are what they are thinking of. We came across this group from a link on Speedkill (which he found via Orcinus). Apparently, the ALC last week hosted a speech by the infamous holocaust denier David Irving in an attempt to "set the record straight" about those nasty Jews and their silly stories about Nazi death camps.
From the ALC web site:
Atheist Law Center to host British historian David Irving on Wednesday, July 6 at 6:30 PM
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Darby, president of the Center, urges citizens concerned about the steady erosion of liberties in the U.S. to come hear of Irving's experiences in challenging popular history of the NAZI era and the Western world's taboos regarding what has grown into the holocaust industry.
The "holocaust industry"? So basically, all those "stories" about the holocaust were just clever ploys put in motion decades ago so that someday "evil Jews" like Steven Spielberg could make millions on that feel-good hit of 1993, Schindler's List? We're sure the Itzhak Stern action figures — with kung-fu stenographic grip — will be forthcoming from the "holocaust industry" any day now. And who could resist those cuddly and sadistic Amon Geothy-Bears?
Pardon us, but go sell crazy somewhere else, Mr. Darby.
Orcinus has some background on Mr. Irving, and over on Respectful Insolence, Orac has some details on Irving that are well worth reading. As you may know, Orac has written extensively on holocaust denial, and if you haven't read his holocaust-related posts yet, we highly reccomend them.
Also from the ALC press release cited above:
When individuals do find the courage to challenge politically correct notions involving Judaism, they are often met with knee-jerk responses of name-calling, such as "anti-Jew" or "anti-Semitic" or, in the case of Irving, "holocaust denier." Such vicious personal attacks have an effect of quashing free expression of opinion and free inquiry into a religion or faith-based practices, even when such practices have a bearing on U.S. national security.
Well, if the name-calling fits, then what the hell do you expect? As far as we're concerned, these morons are free to deny that the holocaust happened, in much the same way that the intelligent members of society are free to call them fucking lunatics and liars. The difference is that our chosen moniker for them is accurate, while their stories are utter crap. (Some good debunking of Irving's bullshit can be found in Michael Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things, and his joint venture with Alex Grobman, Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It.)
But let's not stop the paranoia here, folks! Found elsewhere on the ALC web site:
The revelation that Mossad has spies at the Pentagon passing secrets to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee should be no more surprising than knowledge that the Jewish Mafia influences Democratic Party politics in New Jersey.
What is disgusting to citizens who want an America-first government is the puppet-like control AIPAC has over Congress. William B. Quandt, a former member of the National Security Council, says that over 70 percent of Congress will go along with whatever they think AIPAC wants.
Can you say "that's a lot of loony conspiracy theories," kids? We thought you could. We're a little shocked that Darby hasn't yet revealed that "Hebrew School" is really how young American Jews receive their extensive paramilitary training (one of us is now kicking himself for not paying more attention when he was forced to attend), and the fact that the Jews faked the moon landing (hey, they own Hollwood, right?). To us, religion is just one more silly set of beliefs, but countering it with more silly beliefs isn't the answer.
Based on a forum thread on Internet Infidels, it sounds like many respectable groups have already distanced themselves from the ALC, and rightfully so.
It's sad, really. The group's stated goals are laudable enough, and the fact that they are based in Alabama, a place where support organizations for atheists are likely severely lacking, would have made them a welcome addition to the logic-and-reason community. Unfortunately, logic and reason are two things that the ALC seems to lack.
These morons are a perfect example of what happens when you trade in religiously inspired faith-based beliefs for faith-based beliefs of a different flavor. Folks, it's not about which form of stupidity you subscribe to, it's about subscribing to stupidity at all.
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% Trackback » 2005.07.15 (Fri) 08:16
"Atheists, Anti-Semitism, and Holocaust Denial" from Agnosticism/Atheism
Atheists are generally committed to the principle of free speech, especially where criticism of religion is concerned. Should this commitment lead atheists to give a platform to Holocaust Deniers and help them spread their disinformation?... [More]
% Trackback » 2005.07.15 (Fri) 08:24
"Atheists, Anti-Semitism, and Holocaust Denial" from Agnosticism/Atheism
Atheists are generally committed to the principle of free speech, especially where criticism of religion is concerned. Should this commitment lead atheists to give a platform to Holocaust Deniers and help them spread their disinformation?... [More]
HNN, 2005.07.15 (Fri) 12:00 [Link] »
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